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Wednesday, 09 January 2008

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Winkelried

you wrote:

"To borrow some good old-fashioned Republican logic, the problem, of course, with allowing Catholics to commit constitutional and human rights crimes in the name of their infallible leader, is that it could easily lead to the legalization of cult murder orgies of the Charles Manson sort, legalized slavery of foreigners and those of dark skin, and the stoning to death of women who engage in extra-marital sex."

you wrote:

"The Catholic League would argue that if you hear the voice of God in your head, you should be able to slaughter the innocent."
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Really? Any examples?

These are lies and hateful lies at that. But then you have the CHRC, EGALE and Richard Warman on your side, so what the hell, right?

Never in the history of mankind have homosexuals been safer and more prosperous than in North America at this time. Never!

When Sharia law becomes the law of the land gays can look forward to hangings and stoneings in public squares. Is this what you really want?

Do homosexuals even know what they want? Is so, what is it?

jam b

If your argument is typical of the sort of people who support the HRCs, then let's hope Steyn wins his case and brings the whole HRC system down.

Dennis

"The Canadian Catholic League would have you believe that [freedom of speech] even more important to the Church than human rights"

Freedom of speech IS a human right, you dimwit!

It is, in fact, the keystone supporting all other rights, for without it we have no means of exposing abuses of the others.

Human Rights - including the right to freedom of expression - apply to everyone, whether YOU like them or not.

Jonny

You don't seem to get the basic point of a liberal society. Where there is a system like the system of HRCs it would be all too easy for the composition of the HRCs to be changed to a bunch of people with different views who would then start pursuing people like you for making statements against Catholics.

Also if what Steyn has written about Islam is punishable, then surely so is what you have written above about Catholicism. This would apply even if every word of yours were true.... truth is no defence before an HRC - this is the problem.

Harry Palmer

I'm really disappointed by this post, yes, it's fine to disagree with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, even to find them reprehensible. That does not make it fine to deny them their right to free speech.

I'm sorry, but that post came across as childish and petulant. Tolerance is a two way street, unless we can tolerate free speech for the people with disagree with, and that includes all the sexually repressed 81 year old witch doctors in silk dresses who want to burn people at the stake, then we are simply as bigotted and ultimately as foolish as they are.

David m

To the majority of the comments here: If you're tolerant of intolerance, you've gone too damn far.

Doesn't it make sense to want to stifle the words that inspire and mobilize massive sums of people to exclude or torture GLBT individuals and family constellations? Freedom of speech is one thing; when people use their voice on a massive platform to virally spread ideas that generate miseries in certain kinds of people's lives, it's no longer just about 'free speech'.

When HRC punishes speech, it's a defensive action against anti-social Religion. It's to protect the lives and well being of GLBT. When Religion protests, it's to preserve their right to dispense misery. So, the Catholic's action is not defensive at all. They're just clinging to the sticks they use to beat people with, so to speak.


Also, what are you barking about Winkelreid?

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