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Wednesday, 05 November 2008


Jim Kelly

It appears as though it's a clean sweep for the anti-gay bigots. Marriage equality was defeated in Florida, Arizona, and probably in California. In Arkansas, the good citizens passed a ban on gay people adopting children. In California, the heavily Black and Hispanic populations of Los Angeles County actually voted in the majority in favor of Proposition 8 while voting for Obama. I have no expectations that the plight of the gay community will improve under President Obama. I have no reason to have any such hope.


This is a hollow victory for me, and for the nation. We get Senator Obama, and we get shredded across the nation and discrimination is once again institutionalized across our nation. The evangelical movement has learned that they can use the ballot box and rule by fiat, something that I had never believed could happen in the America I grew up in. I hope that they all die of something awful before the next election cycle.


For all my pessimism, I actually had hope that 8 wouldn't pass, when you hang around progressive people at a university your judgment can be clouded. Now I'm glad I'm back to living in reality. It isn't safe to be born gay in this theocracy. Peaceful coexistence is impossible. If we don't take our rights, we'll never see them.


I live in Arkansas, and I will be asking all of the wonderful straight married people who are so happy they protected the children if they have adopted their child yet.

Alan down in Florida

First I would like to thank Denny for picking up on my trickle down Civil Rights comment and point out that I too said that it didn't work that way for the economy and it won't with Civil Rights.

Secondly it is a bittersweet morning where I am here in Florida. On the one hand my county gave Obama a 130,000+ plurality in a state where his total victory was only in the vicinity of 150,000 votes. On the other hand Amendment 2 garnered more than the 60% super majority to pass which now puts all domestic partnerships in danger. The sole solace I have today is that I believe that President-elect Obama will be able to stock the Supreme Court with gay-friendly justices who will vote with us when the test cases are finally appealed there.

Of course that will probably only mean another battle when the enemy moves to amend the Constitution to immortalize their hatred. Anyone else getting tired?


It feels like I got everything I wanted for Christmas. Then my house burnt down.

Jim Kelly

Yesterday was not a good day for me. I felt as though I had been punched in the stomach.

There's plenty of blame for this to go around starting with President-elect Obama, who stated his opposition to gay marriage in an interview with MTV just a few days before the election. African-Americans voted overwhelmingly in favor of Proposition 8. Obama could have spoken out forcefully to members of the Black community against Prop 8 but he did not. Then there's the governor of California, Mr. Schwarzenegger, who promised gays he'd be there for them in this battle but did nothing. Some criticism of the tactics of the "No On 8" campaign appears to be valid. Finally, I think the gay community nationwide failed to mobilize so as to counteract the activities of the Catholic Church and its supporters, and the Mormons.

We must fight back. We must demand that politicians take principled stands on our behalf in exchange for our votes. We need to detach our fight for our civil rights from a reliance on politicians from any one political party. It's not too late to turn the tide on those who hate us but we must act on our own behalf. This is no time for complacency. There should be a renewed national gay rights mobilization. We must act now.

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